On 4/12/2009 12:10 PM, psmith wrote: > David wrote: >> On 4/11/2009 4:20 PM, psmith wrote: >>> David wrote: >>>> On 4/11/2009 1:50 PM, psmith wrote: >>>>> we were talking on this list a few weeks back about making live spins >>>>> available in a usb format instead of just an iso and it was said >>>>> that it >>>>> would incur more work and that because of the script and program >>>>> mentioned in the title there was no need, well it turns out that >>>>> mandriva have made iso's that are both usb and cdr compatible, all >>>>> that's needed to put the iso on usb is a dd command, >>>>> dd if=foo.iso of=/dev/usb-diskname bs=8M >>>>> for more info check here >> >>>>> http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2009.1_RC_2#Hybrid_ISOs >>>>> is this something that fedora would consider? >>>>> phil >>>>> i don't know if that this is new info or not, or how they do it but i >>>>> thought it interesting and i think all distros should head this way >>>>> for >>>>> live releases. >>>>> phil >>>> This one works well. >>>> liveusb-creator >>>> https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ >>>> and it's already in Fedora 10 and up. You can make your own. :-) >>> like i said it was brought up that liveusb-creator and >>> livecd-iso-to-disk were available, but both of these are additional >>> packages and incur resource usage where as releasing an iso that is both >>> usb and cdr compatible saves resources and makes the step of writing to >>> usb a simple one, granted liveusb-creator and livecd-iso-to-disk are >>> easy enough to use but they are an additional download where as dd is >>> installed by default. i can see no reason not to use this dual format >>> for live releases, and if you think that because tools are available to >>> use the existing method is a valid reason not to move forward with other >>> more useful methods then i don't know what to say :-/ >>> phil >> So what you are saying it that you want all of the mirrors to carry >> both a >> CD ISO and a USB ISO? One each for Gnome and KDE. >> Ping. Both are the same animal guy. The same ISO that you would burn >> to a CD >> is the same ISO that you would write to a USB stick. It all depends on >> what >> you use to install it where. > how about actually reading what's written huh? the iso that mandriva > prepares is usable as a cd iso and a usb iso only requiring dd to write > it to usb, so how is this two iso's? > and the same goes here one iso two purposes, but with the mandriva > version there is no need for installing secondary programs like > livecd-tools or liveusb-creator to use it on a usb, just dd the image > across So what did Mandriva leave off their Live-CD that Fedora does not? The powers that be said that the packages to 'write to a USB stick' would not fit in the CD ISO. I was thinking more along the lines of a Windows user. They do not have the CLI like a Linux user does. And, quite honestly, many Linux users don't, or can't, use the CLI either. To write to a USB stick and then use it extensively would be, IMO, foolish. Since the memory ship it write limited the swap file and log files, Linux logs just about everything, I would think would kill it very quickly. Be prepared for the flying shoes here. :-p Someone, somewhere, will want include what you suggested to be excludes. Have a good day. -- David -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
