psmith wrote: > like i said it was brought up that liveusb-creator and > livecd-iso-to-disk were available, but both of these are additional > packages and incur resource usage where as releasing an iso that is both > usb and cdr compatible saves resources Actually, making a hybrid ISO wastes the resource which is most valuable: disk space on the live CD! We're always very much at the limit of the live CD size, we have no room for extra USB stuff. > and makes the step of writing to usb a simple one, granted liveusb-creator > and livecd-iso-to-disk are easy enough to use but they are an additional > download where as dd is installed by default. Not on Window$, which is what the people who want to try out Fedora are most likely to use. A GUI tool is actually more useful for them than a command-line port of dd. For those people already using Fedora: liveusb-creator is included by default on the KDE spin. As it uses PyQt4, there are some space problems with including it on the GNOME spin (see above - live CDs are already very full). > i can see no reason not to use this dual format for live releases, and if > you think that because tools are available to use the existing method is a > valid reason not to move forward with other more useful methods then i > don't know what to say :-/ liveusb-creator is the more useful method, as it allows you to control your overlay size and share the USB stick with other stuff. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list