Re: F11: xorg decision to disable Ctrl-Alt-Backspace

[Gerry Reno <greno@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

François Cami wrote:

On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:05:39 -0400
Gerry Reno <greno@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

  

John5342 wrote:
    

I actually agree that Ctrl-Alt-Backspace should stay around but also
respect that it is ultimately up to upstream to decide but here is a
wacky solution that might just work. How about having a small package
that automatically enables Ctrl-Alt-Backspace when installed (call it
"ctrl-alt-backspace" for arguments sake). Sysadmins or people who just
want it enabled can easily install it and even make it part of
kickstart file for larger installations. Emacs users or anybody else
who might accidentally hit that combo by accident can simply leave it
uninstalled. Then we can all be happy and get on with more interesting
arguments such as how quickly would i go blind if i just keep staring
at the bottom of my mouse?
  
      

NO!  This means a lot of work for sysadmins around the world that is 
totally unnecessary.  There is nothing wrong with the current 
Ctrl-Alt-Backspace default of enabled.  Nothing.
    

Yes there is. A shortcut, enabled by default, that kills all of the user's
applications without a confirmation popup has no place on a desktop OS.
  

Using that logic we need to ban the power switch, the reset swtich, modular power cords that can be pulled out.  And while we're at it, the 'kill -9', 'rm -rf', the 'shutdown', and a host of others. 
If you're worried aboaut users applications then those applications need to be designed to protect users data with auto-recovery saves and saves on signals as many of them are now starting to do.

Now, what is wrong about having to write a three line xorg.conf ?
If you have a lot of OSes to manage, I suppose you already have a central
management system in place, so that's mostly painless...
  

Again, that's not the point.  Of course any sysadmin can write a xorg.conf and a kickstart file.  Why should an entire world of users have to lose functionality because one small community wants a chance that favors only them.  Nobody who is not using Emacs just "accidentally hits Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.  It doesn't happen.  And finally, this whole change has been done without ANY community involvement, and that include Ubuntu users who are now posting angrily in the Ubuntu forums about this change. 

Regards,
Gerry

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