Re: F11: xorg decision to disable Ctrl-Alt-Backspace

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Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 06:42:59PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
Le dimanche 29 mars 2009 � 21:49 +0530, Rahul Sundaram a �crit :

Changes are (primarily) being made upstream. Downstream users can
document and communicate changes which we have.
Sorry, but that is utter bull*. The discussed change was requested by
Ubuntu users. It lived for quite a long time in their distro. Then it
was submitted upstream by Unbuntu people. For better or worse upstream
merged it.

No. The patch was written and committed by Daniel Stone, who is not an Ubuntu developer. The issue was discussed with the Fedora X maintainers before it was merged. Everyone involved agreed that not having a keystroke that caused immediate data loss was a sensible idea.

At the same time, Fedora upstream devs didn't use their influence to
block the change, didn't try to check what Fedora users wanted, and now
we get the usual "upstream decided, live with it" speach.

A development mailing list is a poor way of judging user desire, as are non-representative polls.

but who on earth can press those three keys by mistake? you'd have to be dumb, so the data loss point is moot, anyway if x locks up and zap is disabled your going to lose the data in a reboot anyway unless you have re-compiled the kernel and turned on the sysreq keys

phil

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