Gerry Reno wrote: > This is a big deal because now some tiny minority has lobbied for > changes to X that end up affecting a large community. And the bogus > arguments about user getting confused about keys is just that totally > bogus. I've never had a user complain about X control key > combinations. Emacs users complain because Emacs wants to have the same > key control sequences as Xorg. That's just wrong. And as a sys admin > if you're not willing to stand up and say that's wrong, then watch for > more ridiculous changes coming your way in the future. I agree here, I think disabling Ctrl+Alt+BkSp by default makes no sense whatsoever. Sure, it's just a default setting, but that doesn't mean the default shouldn't be sane. And setting defaults is one of the things a distribution is for. I disagree about the assertion that we should blindly follow upstream defaults. Several packages have Fedora-specific default configurations. KDE even has a kde-settings package for that purpose (and no, there's no way we're going to remove that package). Many other packages ship with config files which differ from upstream's defaults. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list