This thread has been rendered pointless, we're arguing a moot point. Fedora is apparently sticking with upstream on this so as you stated you will proceed to seek change through their avenues, please do so and once the change has been made upstream then it will be reflected in Fedora. -Adam -- http://maxamillion.googlepages.com --------------------------------------------------------- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list