> - Has anyone reported this to the KDE devs? Otherwise how do you expect it to get fixed? I'm a gnome user now, to me that's not a priority because the problem is not with this object or that library the problem is the developers are not educated well regarding internationalization they assume many stupid assumptions and they are happy with that mentality we have done that before till things are fine in 3.5 do we have to teach them the same silly things over and over it's not rocket engineering, it's just a trivial principle of design all the hard work is already done, the problems are not regarding the complex text rendering engine they are regarding laying out things, Qt knows how to stack things the right way but someone thought that he is too smart to use those routines in the library and he wrote his own hard coded values of Xs and Ys not only in kde, for example the timeline in pitivi ..etc. even html have this design problem [instead of start/end they use left/right] the problem with kde is not the have a piece that is not RTL or BiDi safe, but it's that they choose to jump to the wagon of plasma before making sure it's acceptable to at least some level so obvious problems that can be discovered by just running kde and looking into the surface. I just went into that subject to ask is fedora going to do the same thing with utf8 ie. knowing that utf8 is the right thing but choosing to drop that for no good reason so could we back to the topic, we have less than two months for the release are we prepared to handle the bugs that we know in advance that we are going to introduce -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list