Am Mittwoch, den 18.02.2009, 18:10 -0500 schrieb Colin Walters: > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Colin Walters <walters@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Changing the login system has a *huge* > > impact on how everything works and could easily result in confusing > > problems higher up the stack. > > Just to give a concrete example, how GDM uses PAM is highly > nontrivial, involving separate processes because of PAM's > ill-specified nature among other things. GDM also interacts with > various complex cases like smartcards that in turn involve other > system daemons. Other login managers are not supposed to support smartcard authentication. So why should that be a problem for them? > There is quite a bit happening inside GDM/PAM even on > a default desktop that may not be obvious, such as how gnome-keyring > saves your password to unlock the keyring. How gnome-keyring works > depends on various bits of infrastructure including dbus (this is a > tricky issue). NetworkManager in turn depends on gnome-keyring. NetworkManger-gnome depends on gnome-keyring, not NM itself. That's a big difference. All this stuff you are talking about is (more or less) Gnome-specific, so this is a really bad argument. In fact this is a point I should have added to my list of reasons why gdm doesn't work for everybody. There are other ways to store passwords than gnome-keyring-daemon and there are ways to manage your networking than NM-gnome. > So yes, swapping out the login manager could quite easily result in > not being able to log in to your WPA network. You mean: Connecting to your WPA network _with__NM-gnome_. I have tried gdm, xdm and slim with Gnome, Xfce and LXDE and in all combinations NM-gnome automatically connect me to my wireless network just fine. Regards, Christoph -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
