On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Bastien Nocera <bnocera@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Skype? I use skype-static, which is the only way of having
sound on both speakers.
I think we should enumerate which applications still
use oss before killing it. Ordinary people are much more loyal
to applications than distributions.
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 10:16 -0500, Jon Masters wrote:Where is there still a need for it? Apps that are still using OSS had
> On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 10:22 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Warren Togami wrote:
> > > 1) Keep the OSS kernel modules.
> > > 2) alsa-plugins-pulseaudio ships /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-oss-sound,
> > > thereby preventing loading of these kernel modules and interfering with
> > > pulseaudio daemon.
> > > 3) If the user wants to use an OSS sound application they can use padsp
> > > manually.
> > > 4) Native OSS comes back if the user uninstalls alsa-plugins-pulseaudio,
> > > which also makes it so nothing uses pulseaudio for sound output.
> >
> > The problem with that is that they will continue saying "PulseAudio broke my
> > apps". If we just remove OSS sound support entirely, they won't have a
> > reason to blame PulseAudio anymore.
>
> I love that logic. And by love, I mean I really don't. PulseAudio is
> great, but there is a use case for OSS without PA in the loop still.
about 8 years to switch to ALSA, why do you think they'd be doing it
now?
Which apps? And please don't tell me "internal apps that I've never seen
> And
> I fail to see why breaking those apps is a win - if you're that worried,
> pop up a notification to alert the user that something else has grabbed
> the audio device away.
actually running and that nobody told me about".
OSS is dead on Linux, let's get rid of it, and see who actually cares.
My guess is close to absolutely no one.
Skype? I use skype-static, which is the only way of having
sound on both speakers.
I think we should enumerate which applications still
use oss before killing it. Ordinary people are much more loyal
to applications than distributions.
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Paulo Roma Cavalcanti
LCG - UFRJ
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