On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 6:55 AM, Rex Dieter <rdieter@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Shrug, karma is optional. Many maintainers appreciate it (I do), if you > don't, then don't use it. Technically.... bugzilla is optional too. I'm doing a good job of ignoring it. And I think this line of argumentation is sort of moot. I think the problem is we aren't getting enough feedback into bodhi to know whether or not bodhi is competing with bugzilla. I don't think the problem is the design of bodhi "the webservice", I think the problem is we don't have a streamlined way to pull feedback from users in a timely manner to impact updates-testing. In aggregate how many karma votes do we get averaged for all current updates-testing packages in a given week? 1) We need bodhi integration into PK, so people who choose to use updates-testing get timely reminders and client side help in send in feedback for each and every update in testing they consume. 2) We need updates-testing enablement to be an in your face install time option, where we make the case to users to use updates-testing to help other users avoid problems 3)... 4) profit -jef -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list