2008/12/6 Callum Lerwick <seg@xxxxxxxxxx>: > Which is why we don't do all this work, because it is indeed stupid and > pointless, and we just chmod 755 /usr/sbin/user* and be done with it. > Relying purely on userspace to enforce security is fundamentally broken. > Face it, Fedora is never going to be certified. Why then would people > pay for RHEL. ;D But other fedora derived spins may. Is there need for certified 'appliance' situations that a new 3rd party could leverage Fedora to create? I can imagine all sorts of no network software appliance situations where the CAPP certification applies and a Fedora derived image would be a good development target. CAPP certiafiability is just another desired feature which may or may not be compatible with other desired features. The question for me is, can CAPP certification it be implemented in a modular fashion or does it have to be integrated by impacting traditional defaults. I think CAPP certification, as I understand it, is a poor fit for the security needs of our default Fedora offerings, where we expect an active network. That could be part of the problem. CAPP certification certainly feels like the wrong capability to try to target in our default usage case. Our default usage scenario for the supported spins is simply not the usage that CAPP tries to handle. But it could be very useful for a new spin concept which targets exactly the usage case the CAPP speak to. -jef -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list