Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > Maybe you can offer an alternative? And no, I don't mean reciting names > of some hacks some cool kids may have put together for their birthday... CMake, but... > And not something that requires me to install it first before I can build > this tarball I downloaded. ... this requirement is broken by design. As Conrad points out, you have to install tools such as GCC, Binutils and Make anyway, why not CMake? The perverse idea of allowing to build software using a certain build system without actually installing that build system in the main reason the autotools suck as much as they do. (It means relying on slow shell code which is really ugly because it has to work around bugs of various obscure systems' shells, and it means autogenerating files and passing them off as "source code".) Not to mention that a *nix shell is actually harder to install than a CMake binary on some systems. (Not all the world is a *nix.) How hard is it to "yum install cmake"? Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list