On 12/01/2008 09:25 PM, Gilboa Davara wrote: > I'd suggest you file a bug report against firstboot (Cannot skip user > creation, broken NTP due to broken NetworkManager auto-configuration) > and GDM (Invalid language selection, missing switch-to-US-English > option) and post the BZ# here. Done. User creation: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474007 NTP firstboot crash: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474009 Invalid gdm input language by default: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474010 Broken keyboard switching in GDM: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474011 GDM changes layout after the username prompt before entering password https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474014 > I doubt that anyone here will disagree that these bugs should be fixed > in F11, so beyond venting, I doubt that a starting a discussion about > these bugs will produce anything useful. Some time ago there was a proposed feature - Stabilization which haven't got enough attention. For me or any other cyrillic user (and perhaps not only cyrillic but any language that does not use latin characters for scripting) all these bugs are a great regression since last 4-5 fedora releases. I think that first, developers could draw more attention to multilingual changes, especially when they are changing long established defaults, they could also consider if the new change makes any sense at all (as with non-english login names). And second, this stuff new stuff should not be changed without sufficient feedback from users/testers. If you are lacking testers for a significant change, may be you could just announce that "hey, this feature could possibly break the things, since it changes the habitual defaults, please test it or be warned". This could bring more testers, especially those interested in features to be broken. To summarize: almost all the stuff above was not broken in previous fedora releases. It was not tested enough but it was released. And it can surely spoil the first fedora experience for the newcomers which is definitely not a benefit for fedora. -- Lev. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
