Hmm.... Not to say I haven't written enough for one day but my last message has got me thinking it's harder to QA than to package. (Not package perfectly... just package.) So maybe the assumption that QA is something easy for relative beginners to contribute to Fedora is All Wrong(TM). We should work on getting fedora-newrpmtemplate to a new state of enlightenment, then throw it at unsuspecting new packagers. When tons of pregenerated-spec packages start showing up in the QA Queue, we'll be able to write pseudo-code critiques for our favorite programs and have someone else do the actual work bwaa haa haa! Seriously, maybe it would make more sense for more seasoned people to concentrate on QA and leave good tools and new packagers to create the initial packages. There's a lot of boilerplate involved in creating a package but it takes a lot of "I've done this before and somehow the way it's done here makes my Spider Sense scream..." involved in checking those packages for quality. -Toshio -- Toshio <toshio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>