Re: upgrade to rawhide report

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On Sun, 2004-08-22 at 23:01 -0400, seth vidal wrote:
> > > Not fine to a lot of servers, though. Sometimes you have multiple nics
> > > in a machine and you don't want certain ones even coming up if you can
> > > avoid it. Maybe they're a heartbeat backup nic
> > 
> > Loading the driver doesn't mean assigning an address to it.  I don't see
> > how simply having the driver loaded would cause problems for a backup
> > NIC.
> 
> loading the driver means activating the device, which typically means
> the network (especially switches) are suddenly aware of it.

Ok.  But certainly heartbeat is a special case - you have to do some
manual configuration, and whatever program we have to load drivers could
certainly provide a blacklist.

> bug or not, loading a driver just b/c a device is present is a good way
> to make A LOT of systems unbootable. 

I've never had problems personally when I ran Debian, they use discover,
which IIRC autoloads modules for anything it knows about.

> I'll point you to thousands of
> video cards as an example.

The kernel already has blacklists for bad devices, sounds like that
needs to grow...

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