On Mon, 2004-08-16 at 13:25, Steve G wrote: > What started this whole mess was fstab updating. What was wrong? Was there > bugzilla problem report that started this? No, no problem just that a lot of utilities will start to move to using HAL. updfstab just didn't fit the bill anymore. > >Kudzu is really quite static, think of hal as a daemonized kudzu with more > >flexibility and you'll be a bit closer to the situation. > > And does dbus work without networking running? Are there ways for untrusted users > to abuse it? Has it gone through a rigorous code review? It has security built in and is confined to the local unix domain socket connections which can pass credentials. We even have it working with SE-Linux. DBus also uses all of its own data structures designed to minimize and catch security issues and an extensive test suite. YOu are free to try and break it and report bugs back. > Is the problem you are solving hotplug devices? In the end the problem being solved is reliably detecting all devices and getting relevant information that can be used to auto configure said device. DBus on the other hand solves message passing between the kernel, system, and other programs so that they are no longer islands to themselves. Please read up on them at hal.freedesktop.org and dbus.freedesktop.org and if you have any specific concerns please post to their respective mailing lists where they can be delt with best. Hopefully we can alleviate any of your concerns. -- J5