On Fri, 2004-08-13 at 23:00 -0700, Pete Zaitcev wrote: > An upgrade by the way of an installer consitute a major flag day. > I think it's a little disingenious for you to pretend you see no > difference between running up2date to get security patches and > doing a major upgrade. I don't claim I see _no_ difference. I don't think it's disingenuous to observe that there is in fact a lot of similarity. What was considered a bug in up2date because it rendered the box unbootable should also be considered a bug in anaconda. > There is a major advantage to know what is safe and what is unsafe > beforehand, that is why we have releases in the first place. I've seen boxes rendered unbootable by the installer even when installing proper releases. It's not just rawhide. > You do have to back up everything before doing an upgrade (which is > something you apparently forgot to do), but not before an update. Now who's being disingenuous? The problem is that it was rendered unbootable by removing the old kernels -- I didn't claim it wasn't recoverable. Obviously I had the boot CD to hand (yay, rawhide has ppc boot.iso again) and I was able to fix it. That doesn't make it sane for it to have broken itself in the first place. -- dwmw2