OK. I think I did misunderstand you--you're not speaking of Xterm (or gnome terminal, etc). I'll be happy to clean up my act on this, if that will do the trick. Thanks for the pointer. Guess I need to understand better the distinction in the context of Fedora--the various ~/.bashrc, ~/.bash_profile, etc. Michael Tiemann writes: > Perhaps I don't know enough about your environment, but there is a > definite distinction in my mind between 'console' and 'terminal'. Here > are some messages that reinforce that difference: > > http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/9704.3/0467.html > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/06/msg00138.html > > It could be that the way you have set up your login environment, the > user's only option is a 'console', but I think you should evaluate > making it possible for users who need terminal access (even if it's a > terminal providing eye-free interaction) to use a 'terminal' instead. > > M > > On Wed, 2004-08-11 at 09:18, Janina Sajka wrote: > > Not an option for me (in my eyes-free environment). > > > > And, even if it were, is this really a solution? Or just a workaround? > > > > Michael Tiemann writes: > > > Perhaps you want to be using a terminal window, not a console, for > > > command-line activities. I know the distinction may come as a surprise, > > > but terminals will give you the peace you seek. I never open console > > > windows (well, almost never). > > > > > > M > > > > > > On Wed, 2004-08-11 at 09:05, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > > Am I the only person who's sick and tired of all manner of error > > > > messages that are being splattered across all open console logins just > > > > because some programmer wants to do that? > > > > > > > > Example: Is it really necessary for ordinary users to get the following > > > > from cdparanoia: > > > > > > > > cdparanoia: Using deprecated /dev/sg mechanism instead of SG_IO on the actual device will also suggest you mig > > > > > > > > > > > > As if the ordinary user (who, in my instance didn't even launch the > > > > process) could do anything about such a condition. Heck, I'd warrant > > > > most users wouldn't even understand it. Yet, in this example, this > > > > messages comes up every minute or so. > > > > > > > > I could come up with other examples, but I think my point is > > > > sufficiently illustrated. > > > > > > > > Clearly such messages should go to logs. But, isn't this broadcast > > > > abuse? I think so and dearly wish we had a mechanism to block such > > > > abuse. > > > > > > > > Janina > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > fedora-devel-list mailing list > > > fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Chair > > Accessibility Workgroup > > Free Standards Group (FSG) > > > > janina@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Phone: +1 202.494.7040 > > > > > -- > fedora-devel-list mailing list > fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- Janina Sajka, Chair Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Phone: +1 202.494.7040
