Hi, I guess there has been some discussion about getting rid of packages to trim the distribution size somewhat. I wanted to point out a few candidates that might help. *Byacc - bison covers this *autocon213 - expect & pkgconfig should be modernized. *automake14 - pkgconfig is the only thing needing this that I see *automake16 - gmp should be updated *automake17 - this is so close to 1.8.4 that anything needing it just needs: aclocal, automake, autoconf added to the spec file. They've all converted fine on my system. *passwd - shadow-utils has much if not all of the same functionality as this package. Why not try to consolidate to one package? Some of the utilities in shadow-utils are not packaged and therefore easily overlooked. Then the other area that swings in the most packages is simply building the documentation during a compile. Some packages use doxygen, docbooks, linuxdoc, perl-SGMLSpm, etc. After the build, these packages probably get very little use on an average user's machine. This is an area that needs attention/consolidation. You would be surprised how many packages get swung in simply to make the documentation. I think I was able to jettison 20-30 packages by removing the above mentioned documentation packages and their dependencies. I just wanted to thow those out in case it helps. -Steve Grubb __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com