On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:01:31 -0700, Michael A. Peters <mpeters@xxxxxxx> wrote: > I am aware that they are available from a number of places. > I am curious as to why they are not with Fedora - which was my original > question - not where to get them (google or rpmfind would have done > that) I think the webpage at http://rpm.livna.org explains the situation quite succinctly, in the very first sentence. If you need a more detailed analysis of why totem and other packages were considered problematic for fedora.us to continue to house, you will probably only be satisfied with an essay directly from someone in Red Hat's legal department...which i would not hold my breathe for. It's best to think of livna as effectively the non-US or freeworld extention of fedora.us. -jef