On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 05:22, Aurelien Bompard wrote: > (I've recently heard Debian users boast --again-- > about that) * debian rant * Debian users may boast about - but last time I installed Sarge from CD - it would hang the installer at the place where it creates the apt config file because it could not establish a network connection, apparently PPPoE is something they don't want to offer even from CD. So no problem - I have a dialup modem as well. It couldn't find it - so I told it where it was at - /dev/ttyS4 Still couldn't. I looked in /dev - and they only had stopped at ttyS3 MAKEDEV fixed that. But then it couldn't mount my cdroms to read the packages. Looked - their installer neglected to add an entry in fstab for my cdrom. I fixed that - and now it could mount CD's. Then partway through the installer - it crapped out on me. It had installed a package that told apt to require the .debs to be signed - but they didn't sign any any of their packages. Removed that package - and THEN it installed. I posted these concerns on some debian lists and got flamed to hell about how I must be stupid because everything works for them, all seeming to completely miss the point that I could not network install like they did, because PPPoE wasn't something that worked for that. Fine - let debian work for them. Let them boast. Debian IMHO use to be a very very good distribution (slink days) - now they seem to be more concerned about filling 12 CD's with software packages than anything else. Like they've lost their focus or something. Oh well - hopefully the new installer they are talking about will resolve their issues, and users won't have to switch to virtual consoles to create a modem device - or edit their fstab to install from CD. I like the distro when it is installed, I really do. It was one of my first distro's. It's getting there they need to seriously work on. -- Cheap Linux CD's - http://mpeters.us/linux/
