Well... it seems like we have some small issues in the future path of the fedora core desktop (not only for fedora actually). 1) Menus. More is not the best solution, so it's out. We should try to create a replacement, because in some situations the menus are overwhelming. 2) How many applications doing the same thing do we need? Having too many applications can be confusing. A new user (especially one that comes from another OS or from an old Linux distribution version), would be confused and might not make the optimal choice for his situation. Think of how many music players we have, how many editors, how many mail clients. Should all these be in the equivalent of the now deprecated X-Red-Hat-Base? Should we even show all the applications we have installed or just the popular ones? A Microsoft style hide unused entries would be practical? Are there any other solutions, such as 2/3 level menu tree? Try and suggest also some other QUESTIONS and a date for a virtual meeting on irc to find/discuss answers to these. I don't recommend answering these questions right here/now. An irc chat would be more appropriate. Also if you want to have a chat on this, think of the time differences around the world (I'm in GMT+2), because it's evening when you guys have lunch, and it's waaaay past mid-night (closer to morning) when it's evening for you. These being said, I looking forward to a productive mind-storm on these topic, and not only. Best Regards, Razvan Corneliu C.R. "d3vi1" VILT <razvan.vilt@xxxxxxxxxxx> Digital Vision - linux360 - Vision Project Maintainer