On Thu, 2022-12-08 at 19:59 +0100, drago01 wrote: > On Thursday, December 8, 2022, Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > On Thu, 2022-12-08 at 12:58 +0000, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > > > > I've done a few passes, dropping a bunch of older firmware upstream > > > that are no longer supported in any stable kernel release, also a > > > bunch of de-dupe and linking of files rather than shipping of multiple > > > copies of the same firmware. It's improved things a bit, unfortunately > > > a lot of the dead firmware was tiny compared to say average modern > > > devices like GPUs or WiFI. > > > > > > The problem with a lot of the firmware, and with the new nvidia "open > > > driver" which shoves a lot of stuff into firmware in order to have an > > > upstreamable driver apparently the firmwares there are going to be > > > 30+Mb each, is that they're needed to bring up graphics/network etc to > > > even just install so I don't know how we can get around this and still > > > have a device work enough to be able to install the needed firmware > > > across the network. > > > > > > Ideas on how to solve that problem welcome. > > > > Sorry if this is way off, but - do we need the GPU firmwares to run a > > graphical install on the fallback path, just using the framebuffer set > > up by the firmware? How crazy would it be to just do that - ship the > > installer env with no GPU firmware? > > > That would be very crazy, as you will have a degraded user experience > (laggy UI, wrong resolution, ...) to save a couple of megabytes that are a > non issue for today's hardware. I mean, the modern systems that *need* GPU firmware generally seem to do pretty well with using native resolution and don't perform too badly, especially in the simple installer UI. When I test the fallback path on my bare metal test box on UEFI it uses the monitor's native resolution and performs fine (even, honestly, in GNOME), and that motherboard is nearly a decade old even. Don't know if this is the same for everyone, of course. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ desktop mailing list -- desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to desktop-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
