On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 05:41:45AM -0000, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Hello team, > > Fedora Design lab maintainer here. I recently replaced GRUB2 by systemd-boot following this [instruction](https://kowalski7cc.xyz/blog/systemd-boot-fedora-32). > I had to remove shim after backing up otherwise secure boot prevent systemd-boot to execute. > The experience is completely refreshing seen the boot screen instead of the bootloader (activated by holding escape button on a start-up). It will be much better with secure boot available for. > Will it be time to use it on Workstation as alternate bootloader for device running on EFI? The ideal will be fore Fedora 35 but Fedora 36 may be the fallback. I think this would be something worth pursing… sd-boot has a smaller set of capabilities, but for the cases it covers, it works rather well. The scheme is simple, so there is less things to break, and its easy to introspect/reconfigure the boot loader from user space (e.g. 'bootctl list'). That said, we should probably do some things before making it more widely used: - improve the boot editor on hidpi screens (we try to autoselect some appropriate resolution, but this doesn't seem to work too well. Somebody who knows uefi should look into this). - set up automated testing on real hardware (or add to QA SOPs?). - make the setup on Fedora automatic with some one-liner. - make the grub2 and shim packages not brick sd-boot on their updates. - sign sd-boot so shim can boot it (?) I think it's all doable, and none of those points are hard requirements really. But it'd need to people who want to drive this forward. I'm doing most of the maintenance work for systemd in Fedora, and I can't take this on myself. Zbyszek _______________________________________________ desktop mailing list -- desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to desktop-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure