My working assumption is that g-i-s and Users panel need to grow the ability to present appropriate interface for per user encryption; maybe that could be as simple as an "encrypt" checkbox at user creation time, ticked by default. 1. How to handle Anaconda vs GNOME encryption features? a. It's not apparent that the two offerings differ, how they differ, that they can be combined, that combining them has consequences. b. In the Installation Destination spoke, "Encrypt my data" is visible and unchecked by default. It could be construed as user home only encryption. It is, however, full disk encryption (minus /boot). c. If user chooses this option in the installer, now what? Do not enable or even present the GNOME encryption features? Or double encrypt? d. Alternatively, does it get renamed to better indicate it's full disk encryption? Or remove it entirely? 2. Consequences of an fscrypt/ext4 only solution a. Users choosing anything other than ext4 not only don't get user home encrypted by default, they can't opt into what we're initially proposing. b. In some sense it diminishes the message that privacy of user data is important, because it comes with a "only if you pick ext4" catch. c. How would the user be informed of a & b (goes back to #1). 3. Upsides of fscrypt/ext4 only solution a. Faster delivery than systemd-homed? (Is this certain?) 4. What about /home only encryption? a. Wrap a single LUKS passphrase stored for each user login? Any valid user reveals that passphrase, and is automatically used to unlock /home; g-i-s could one-time acquire the LUKS passphrase used during installation from the (first/admin) user b. Use each user's login passphrase as a LUKS passphrase, stored in a LUKS keyslot? (Might aid chance of recovery in case all login files are lost.) c. Requires Anaconda changes. Retask "encrypt my data" to mean /home encryption? How to indicate full disk encryption? Present both options? 5. What about always using a /dev/urandom derived key at boot time for swap? -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ desktop mailing list -- desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to desktop-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx