On Thu, 2018-03-22 at 04:40 +0000, Peter Robinson wrote: > ... to improve performance on low resource devices ... Hi, I only recently, like three weeks ago, had been asked to update Fedora on a very old Dell notebook. I installed there Fedora 20 years ago and when I've been asked to get there a newer Firefox, because that ancient doesn't work for sites like Facebook (do not ask, it's not my machine), then I decided to update to the recent Fedora 27. Then the user gets all the security fixes and so on, right? Everyone wins. After successful 'distro-sync', which was quite impressive on its own, the gdm didn't boot quicker than in like 5 minutes, when I was lucky. Booting to GNOME took even longer. The rescue mode booted quicker, but that's not the production. There were caught some ABRT reports about kernel crash, but it was just about: "hey, kernel crashed, but you've bad luck, because from this crash kernel developers won't get anything, thus I'll not let you report it". What are such ABRT reports good for? The ancient Fedora 20 didn't have this issue, it just worked. Long story short, I spent half night and quite few hours the next day trying fresh install of Fedora 27, 26, 25, but none worked that well as Fedora 20, thus I resulted in getting the ancient Fedora 20 from the archives, install it and bring Firefox straight from Mozilla. The task accomplished, but... Maybe there's some regression there, kernel should not crash, but I do not have that machine anymore, I've it only borrowed to get there new- enough browser and then I returned it back. It's not helpful for the community, I know, but it's the user experience I've got with one low resource device (I'm pretty sure it had the CPU and HDD higher than the minimum, the RAM at least 1GB too, but I'm not sure right now; did Fedora 20 have the same requirements? It works there reasonably well...). Maybe you can compare such ancient Fedora, like the Fedora 20, with the current Fedora on those low resource devices to see (and feel) the difference. With classic "rotated disks", not SSD, that might be important too. Bye, Milan _______________________________________________ desktop mailing list -- desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to desktop-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx