Hi Adam,
While I appreciate that setroubleshoot can be a useful tool for testers to file bug reports, to be in the default install, I think it needs to meet some minimum requirement of good experience for users encountering it. - and when you consider setroubleshoot in the role of: Average target user encounters an operating system defect and reports it
I just don't think it meets that target. In addition, as of gnome-3.26, we don't even show indicator icons unless you install an extension, so setroubleshoot isn't filling the expected role of notifying about problems.
Owen
On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mon, 2017-12-18 at 09:01 -0600, mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> * Remove setroubleshoot (mcatanzaro, 14:29:45)
> * AGREED: Remove setroubleshoot from default Workstation install,
> without replacement. (mcatanzaro, 14:44:46)
14:49:54 <mcatanzaro> We'll see how it works out... fortunately, errors
are quite rare nowadays.
A rather large part of the reason why errors are rare is that they are
found, reported and fixed by pre-release testers. Removing
setroubleshoot from the default desktop install *at a stroke* makes it
vastly less likely that pre-release testers will do this. I'm not super
happy with this call.
It seems rather baffling, honestly - it almost seems like you voted in
favour of getting worse bug reports. Yes, maybe problems will still be
reported, but you'll get reports against *your* components like "app
doesn't start" or "app can't open file for some reason" rather than a
report against selinux-policy that is a precisely targeted description
of an selinux denial and, 90% of the time, will be *read and fixed by
someone else without you ever having to see it*. Do you all really love
doing triage work, or something?
--
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
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