Re: Wayland drag and drop question?

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On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 01:10:19PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Norman L Smith <nls1729@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Fedora Workstation 25 Beta...
> >
> > I have found a difference between Xorg and Wayland drag and drop behavior in
> > Gnome Shell.
> > In Wayland you cannot drag the icon through the hot corner and paste into an
> > application in a
> > different workspace.
> >
> > The Xorg drag and drop is intuitive. You hold the mouse button down through
> > the entire
> > operation until you reach the target and then release to drop.
> >
> > The Wayland drag and drop works but it is not obvious what to do. You must
> > drag the object
> > into the hot corner.  When the Overview is displayed, move cursor into the
> > Overview.  The
> > icon is detached from the cursor and remains at the corner.  You then
> > release the mouse
> > button and move the cursor to the workspace with the target.  Press and
> > release the mouse
> > button to select the target.  The target will be moved from the workspace to
> > the body
> > of the Overview.  Move the mouse button to the target and press and release
> > the mouse
> > button.  The Overview will close and the icon appears and reconnects to the
> > cursor.  Click
> > the target and the object will be dropped.
> >
> > I have placed a compressed file with two short videos of Xorg and Wayland
> > drags from an
> > application to an application in a different workspace at:
> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B52Y4vnjoV74WDVaQ1F6TjlXSk0/view?usp=sharing
> >
> > My question: Is the Wayland behavior intended by design or should I report a
> > bug?
> 
> Hmm, interesting. It does not strike me as wrong behavior off hand,
> but it is remarkably different behavior. On a trackpad, continuously
> holding down the button while dragging with X is a little tedious
> actually, and the result you want has a good chance of failure if you
> "let go" of the  dragged object through inadvertent unclicking. This
> is less likely with the Wayland behavior.

fwiw, libinput allows you to hold the button down with one finger and use a
second finger to move the cursor. that should work on most touchpads, given
the right hardware capabilities.

Cheers,
   Peter

> 
> But it's a valid question whether the difference in behavior is
> intentional or an artifact. If it's going to change, the sooner the
> better, rather than having multiple different behaviors floating about
> among Fedora releases.
> 
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