Hey, so we've talked about this a lot, and there are now two change pages: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/WorkstationOstree This is in Fedora release engineering, and the scope is basically rpm-ostree + flatpak https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/AtomicWorkstation But I'd like to revisit this, since I want to argue strongly for adding Docker to the mix. I now use "pet" Docker containers for most of my random software building/hacking, and I think this use case is not really covered by flatpak, and installing build tools on the host system I believe should be an explicit anti-pattern. I've set up https://pagure.io/atomic-ws which is running in CentOS CI. This specifically configures Docker in a useful way (overlayfs), and starts by default. Basically, by adding Docker, I think this feels closer to Project Atomic, hence the rebranding. Besides the link on the pagure page, I copied a snapshot of the ISO here: https://fedorapeople.org/~walters/atomicws-installer-25.2016.61.iso There are hence a few things to do to merge this into Fedora: - Decide on tooling emphasis (and management; does PackageKit need to learn anything about docker?) - Decide on the branding - Merge in the partitioning changes I made in https://pagure.io/atomic-ws/blob/master/f/overlay.yml#_46 (switch to something similar to Server - xfs by default, no split /home, but overlayfs for docker) - Fix the ostree management in Fedora (right now at-most-once-a-day is far too slow for development and far too fast for most users, I think it could make sense to do a two-week cadence (+async security) as we're planning for Atomic Host). This will also enable static deltas and make the experience more pleasant; see https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6313 In CentOS for Atomic Host we use a "promotion" model. _______________________________________________ desktop mailing list -- desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to desktop-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx