On Fri, 2016-04-01 at 17:12 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2016-04-01 at 13:07 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > > > (For the innocent bystanders, we've decided to use fedora-desktop list > > for development communication around https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cha > > nges/WorkstationOstree , so you'll see some more or less mundane stuff > > go by here - if you're not interested, just ignore it. Better than > > chasing things via private mail or yet-another-list, I believe). > > > > Here's a first status update of sorts for the atomic workstation effort > > (I'm afraid this name will stick if we don't come up with something > > else soon, I'm already used to it). > Can you please call it something like "rpm-ostree workstation"? There's > quite a significant distinction between the rpm-ostree mechanism for > constructing an OS, and the "Atomic host" concept. AIUI, *one* of the > essential properties of an "Atomic host" is that it be built by rpm- > ostree, but *another* essential propert of an "Atomic host" is that it > consist of (or at least contain) a specific set of components, which a > Workstation-on-rpm-ostree most likely would not. Quote: > > "The core of Project Atomic is the Project Atomic Host. This is a > lightweight operating system that has been assembled out of upstream > RPM content. It is designed to run applications in Docker containers." > > http://www.projectatomic.io/docs/introduction/ > > basically it seems to me that the definition of an Atomic Host is at > least "an OS built with rpm-ostree that includes systemd, Docker and > Kubernetes", but 'lightweight' can be read as implying that it > shouldn't include very much at all *beyond* that (which would mean a > Workstation would not qualify). > > Unless this new Workstation effort is specifically intended to always > meet the definition of an "Atomic Host", *as well as* being a Fedora > Workstation, I don't think it should be called Atomic Workstation. To argue with myself a bit, I suppose you could make the argument that an "Atomic Workstation" could be another type of "atomic thing" - so we would have "Atomic Hosts" and "Atomic Workstations". But man, that sounds like it might get confusing...at least I think whoever gets to decide what the hell "Atomic" means exactly (i.e. Project Atomic) should probably weigh in on it, before anything else gets "Atomic" in its name. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx