On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Matthias Clasen <mclasen@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > That sort of whiplash (disabling something 'temporarily' only to bring > it back next release) is generally frustrating to all sides. The flat > volume haters will rejoice when we turn it off now and upset when we > bring it back later. The flat volume proponents will have the opposite > reaction. And everybody else will just shake their head and think "they > have no idea what they're doing". > > Since we've been living with flat volume's warts for so long, I would > suggest to wait for the PA fixes. Is it a PA fix that's needed, or is it the applications that need to not default to asking for 100% volume? My understanding is with flat volume, 100% application volume means 100% absolute volume, rather than 100% of "system" volume, i.e. a relative amount. Maybe some people would volunteer to show up for a volume test day, go through the apps with a default installation and report apps with too high default volume? -- Chris Murphy -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx