hi all I don't own a mac myself, but I'm writing here in case other people do. I'm a co developer of the sonar distribution, which is basically manjaro with speech. When I downloaded fedora 23 this morning which I also use, I noticed that it has on the USB drive an hfsplus partition with what looks like a dummy copy of the mock kernel binary to trick apples into thinking they're booting a copy of osx. Is there any way I can get a hold of the source, or instructions on how to add this to sonar? I've been going around and around in circles trying to help various people with their macs and the mac isn't booting sonar. It's refusing to even try and I know fedora works on a mac because I've used it. Sorry if this is a little OT for this list but I didn't know where else to post this. Thanks Kendell clark -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop