On 10/28/2015 05:06 PM, Stefan Nuxoll wrote: > The Windows network view uses multiple protocols for device discovery, > including NETBIOS, UPnP and Zeroconf. Most modern routers advertise > themselves using Zeroconf - at one point Epiphany (GNOME Web) would > display Zeroconf advertised devices under a 'Local Sites' bookmark > folder, but it seems that is no longer the case (correct me if I'm > wrong). Nautilus (GNOME Files) is purely a file manager, it does not do > any Zeroconf discovery for network devices. > "I think this isn't entirely accurate. I believe it uses avahi or zeroconf, if you like that better to show network accessible devices, which is how it displays a "windows network" option. I don't know this to be completely true it could use some other way of showing these devices but I "think" that's how it does it. In nautilus > 3.18 these devices have been moved into an "other devices" view which makes it look cleaner and less cluttered. If this is the case that routers advertise themselves via zeroconf I may have to investigate the avahi config files to see if a particular option needs enabling. As an aside, the gateway alias does seem to work. However, I get 100 percent packet loss when trying to use it. The particular output I get is: kendell@tigger speechd-el$ sudo ping [Kgateway [sudo] password for kendell: PING gateway.home (198.105.254.17) 56(84) bytes of data. ^C --- gateway.home ping statistics --- 7 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 6007ms I've setup a separate home domain via firewalld, which might be why this doesn't work. Another interesting side effect of this is that I can no longer use vinegger, gnome's remote desktop client, to connect to windows or linux machines over the network. When I attempt to search for them in the "home" domain, I get an error. The exact error is "cannot browse for "protocol" on domain home. Nxdomain." I'm wondering if I might have messed something up attempting to mess with things in firewalld. This stuff is a little over my head. I really should invest in a good networking book Thanks Kendell clark" > Stefan Nuxoll <stefan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:stefan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > >> Subject: Re: detecting network routers in gnome? >> To: desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> From: coffeekingms@xxxxxxxxx >> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 17:02:04 -0500 >> >> >> >> On 10/28/2015 04:52 PM, Elad Alfassa wrote: >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > I don't think this fits in Nautilus. Nautilus is a file manager, your >> > router is not a file. >> > >> > >> > You don't have to remember the IP address or even look for it, though, >> > because you can just type http://gateway in your browser window, and it >> > will work. I don't remember if it's systemd or NetworkManager which sets >> > the "gateway" alias, but it has been around for few releases at this >> > point. You can also use it in the command line, for example "ping > gateway". >> > >> > I hope this helps. >> "It sure does. Wish I'd known about this, thanks a lot. As a curiosity, >> is this what windows does? Or does the router specifically identify >> itself in some proprietary way windows can see? >> Thanks >> Kendell clark" >> >> > -- >> > -Elad. >> > >> > >> -- >> desktop mailing list >> desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop > > -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop