On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, 2015-09-09 at 18:33 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: >> However, it is unclear to me 1) what you mean by mandate, and 2) how >> you plan on doing so at a Fedora Project level particularly when the >> project has not committed to shipping any kind of xdg-app at all. I >> believe the desire and intentions are there, but mandate seems a bit >> bold at this point. > > In the Workstation WG, there is consensus on moving towards > distributing applications as xdg-app bundles. Applications will be > required to bundle any library not provided by the xdg-app runtime. I > don't think we have made any formal decisions regarding this, but it > seems almost inevitable at this point. We also haven't defined what > applications will be required to use xdg-app, but history tells us that > if the answer isn't "almost everything," the project will fail. An > optional application sandbox is a pointless application sandbox; > developers aren't going to use it if it's optional, since that's more > work for them. > >> Yes, Coprs are being used to provide useful software outside of the >> Fedora repositories. This is not surprising at all. What would be >> the good of building the Copr infrastructure if it wasn't used? I >> also don't think it is all that much of a problem either. > > I don't really understand what the end goal is with coprs, I suppose, > and I'm not sure if the copr developers or anyone else does either. > There's really no practical difference to the end user whether the > application is in Fedora or a copr, so long as it appears in GNOME > Software. But if the packaging guidelines can be circumvented simply by > migrating applications to a copr, then applications are going to > migrate to coprs. Eventually we're going to have a lot fewer > applications in the Fedora repositories. This isn't necessarily a bad > thing, but I don't really see why it's desirable.... Accepting all premises above, Copr end run around means application sandboxing is pointless, and xdg-app will fail because it makes both optional. -- Chris Murphy -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
