On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 14:02 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Owen Taylor <otaylor@xxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > > And on the other hand, it doesn't provide the > > biggest advantage that we can offer to users: the assurance that > > we've > > actually tested not just individual packages that we're installing > > on > > the system, but the actual same operating system that they are > > running. > > Why is this not adequately solvable with the exist repo system by > adding, e.g. "validated" and "validated-testing" repos? Then people > who want the old way still use fedora+updates, testers additional use > updates-testing; and those who want the new way use fedora+validated > and testers use validated-testing? Anything done by simply putting different things in repos can only address testing of individual packages, not the combination of packages on a system. There's more discussion in https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2015-July/012567.html and the linked-to Wiki page. One way I like to think of it, is that I can do all sorts of things to my Fedora system - without changing package content - without breaking 'rpm -Va' That make it misbehave in minor or major ways. As an OS developer, that's great flexiblity. As a user - that's not so good - because if any of those things happen to your system by chance or by poorly tested upgrade paths, then your system will never recover on its own. - Owen -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop