Re: should we always install updates by default at each shut down?

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On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Thu, 14 May 2015 10:13:54 -0500
> Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2015-05-14 at 10:18 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> > These, though, I think are more rare and if it weren't for the
>> > other, I'd say just uncheck the box in these cases. But I can see
>> > rebooting to
>> > switch OS as compellingly annoying enough alone.
>>
>> The boot menu appears before the update starts, so you can switch to
>> the other OS straight away if you make this mistake, but will have to
>> sit for the update next time you attempt to boot Fedora.
>>
>> IMO updating should be the default, though. It's what we want to
>> encourage you to do. Not updating is discouraged, so you should need
>> to click once for the discouraged behavior.
>
> Additionally, for people who apply their updates online, this sometimes
> results in gnome-software downloading and getting a backup set in the
> background, they download and update again, they reboot and off-line
> updates tries to apply but finds that things are already updated, and
> you get an error on the next boot about things already updated. :)
>
> Of course on-line updaters are perhaps the exception here, and this can
> be worked around by simply disabling off-line via the gesettings
> setting, but thought I would point it out.

Depends on how you apply them ... you could/should simply use "pkcon
update" it will reuse the metadata and downloads done in the
background but apply them straight away.
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