Re: Why people are not switching to Fedora

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----- Original Message -----
> On Sun, 10 May 2015 11:41:13 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> 
> > We don't ship any system-config-* utilities anymore, and we will not
> > add any ever again (system configuration belongs in gnome-control
> > -center), so this isn't relevant to Workstation at all. This sounds
> > like a complaint for the KDE SIG.
> 
> I agree system configuration belongs in gnome-control-center. I
> am not a gnome-shell hater.  I use gnome-shell on all of my systems,
> but if things are replaced, they should be as good as what is replaced.
> system-config-printer is better than gnome-control-center with printers.
> 
> The problem is the system-config-* utilities functions are not always
> completely replaced by the gnome-control-center.
> 
> An example is you cannot share printers from gnome-control-center.
> Sharing printers is relevant to Workstation.  A very popular solution
> from The Google is system-config-printer or Cups via localhost:631.
> See Gnome Bugzilla 692532
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692532  opened 2013-01-25,
> last comment 2013-02-15, last history entry 2013-04-19 "ui-review".
> It is interesting to read Red Hat Bugzilla 1136588
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1136588  in this context
> where there is a reference to localhost:631.

Really not a related bug. One is a feature request to act as a server,
the other a problem when GNOME acts as the client.
  
> I like the idea of Workstation.  I have used Red Hat Linux and then
> Fedora since Apollo.  I subscribed to this mailing list after reading
> about the new approach for Fedora. I get the impression from reading
> this list popularity as measured in number of users is a goal.
> 
> A dubious goal... <with apologies for bluntness>
> 
> A better goal is to be good at what you do.  For me in the past Fedora
> has been very good to me.  It is better to be good than popular.

First off, I should mention that system-config-printer isn't removed from
Fedora, and the Printers panel is infinitely better integrated than
system-config-printer ever was in GNOME.

Thanks for pointing out the bug, that helps us refocus when bugs like this slip
through the cracks.

However, you're not CC:ed on the bug (where number of CC:ed does help a little bit
gauge interest in a feature), which is probably the reason why the problem didn't
get attention.

There's 2 other reasons why it might not be of such a huge interest from the majority
of our users:
- the rise of cheap wireless printers
- the rise in ISP provided set top boxes which can handle being a print server (YMMV)
- the fact that the feature only exports to MacOS X and Linux (through CUPS), and
  not Windows workstations, or smartphones. Maybe that's good enough, I don't know.

In short, CC: yourself on the upstream bug, and I'm sure there will be movement soon.

Cheers
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