On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, 06 Apr 2015 16:56:31 -0400 > Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Broken from the "Summary of Reddit thread". >> >> Fedora's lack of a graphical major-version updater comes up >> constantly. I think it's probably time to start brainstorming how to >> solve it, with a stated intention of having things work for upgrading >> Fedora 23 -> Fedora 24 *at minimum* and an ideal situation of having >> Fedora 22 -> Fedora 23 upgrades work (with changes made during Fedora >> 22's stable lifecycle to support this). > > I think this brainstorming should include right now the fedup > maintainer(s). It seems odd to me to start discussing this on this list > without first asking them plans and roping them into the discussion. > > ...snip lots of stuff that fedup already does and some it doesn't > yet.... > >> * For Fedora Workstation, the obvious graphical front-end should be >> GNOME Software > >> * ... However, the low-level should be implemented by PackageKit so >> that other DEs can implement their own solutions. > > Why reimplement fedup in PackageKit? Or is that not what you are saying? > >> * The fedup tool already provides a non-graphical implementation of >> the dedicated upgrade environment (as well as some odds-and-ends for >> managing changes that aren't handled by simple package upgrade >> scripts). This logic should be moved to PackageKit and maintained >> there, with fedup becoming a CLI client implementation of it. > > Well, I am not a fedup maintainer, but that seems... odd to dictacte. > > Why is PackageKit a better place for it? > > IMHO, I think it would make sense to keep fedup as the cli/backend and > have gnome-software or perhaps a dedicated fedup gui frontend interface > with it. >> >> * The Fedora infrastructure would need to add new metadata to >> describe releases (also supporting Alpha and Beta releases) that the >> upgrade mechanisms may query for. Mirror-manager is probably a good >> place for this. > > fedup already has this. Well gnome-software's offline update is not much different from fedup modulo the initrd / dracut stuff. If we add that they would be more or less the same. -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
