On Tue, 2015-04-07 at 06:45 -0400, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > > Broken from the "Summary of Reddit thread". > > > > Fedora's lack of a graphical major-version updater comes up > > constantly. I think it's probably time to start brainstorming how > > to > > solve it, with a stated intention of having things work for > > upgrading > > Fedora 23 -> Fedora 24 *at minimum* and an ideal situation of > > having > > Fedora 22 -> Fedora 23 upgrades work (with changes made during > > Fedora > > 22's stable lifecycle to support this). > > > > So to brainstorm, I'll start with a list (in no particular order) > > of > > things I think we want as goals (not necessary technical goals but > > user experience goals) and then go into a few known technical > > enhancements that need to be accomplished to get there. (Note: > > many of > > the experience goals may already be possible with some combination > > of > > GNOME Software and/or fedup, but they are included for > > completeness). > > > > Much discussion welcome! > > One things to add to user experience is integration with Preupgrade > Assistant. One can argue it's not for Workstation use case but for > Server but one of the ideas was to support desktop upgrades aka when > for example an IM client is no longer default, say hey, we have very > new shining IM client and you can even migrate your history via... > > https://fedoraproject.org//wiki/Changes/Preupgrade_Assistant > I don't think this is part of my ideal graphical upgrade experience, tbh. It is basically a collection of workarounds for all the places where upgrade doesn't work. If we want to discuss better approaches to upgrading a system, here is an alternative design: https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/OS/Migration The premise there is that it is much better to do a selective export/import of your important data, and do a fresh install, instead of trying to manage all the ways in which a huge, system-wide upgrade can fail. Of course, this is quite different from what fedup is doing today, and we don't have any code for this. -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop