On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Liam <liam.bulkley@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Yes, that's the fundamental issue but I don't think we're going to get any > movement on this at this point in time. The answer Workstation has gone with > was that it's for both, but with a bit of an emphasis on > developers/producers (I agree that the later term is better and emphasizes > how we should think). > My personal position has been that we should target ONLY producers. Make an > environment that helps them achieve their goals more easily/quicker or even > at all. That's what would draw people to the Fedora Workstation. At this stage of the Linux lifecycle (20+ years and counting) you have to ask, "What would take people *away* from Debian and Ubuntu and guide them into the world of Fedora, RHEL and CentOS?" I don't think you're going to get people off of Macs, and if they're on Windows they live in a different world entirely. ;-) And honestly, if you're developing *for* RHEL / CentOS, why would you run a Fedora desktop instead of an RHEL / CentOS desktop? Fedora's only 2.5 releases newer than Fedora 19, the basis for RHEL 7. > Being able > to watch movies, read books, share media, etc is something all the other > platforms can already do (and because of our values, those platforms aren't > hampered by being unable to distribute "proprietary" components) and doesn't > distinguish us AT ALL, even if we did those things PERFECTLY. I don't know about Macs - never owned one - but yeah, after looking at the Windows 10 desktop they've tripled down on being a home entertainment / gaming system. I think Windows is on a trajectory to merge with XBox sooner rather than later, leaving their core business users as the only market for something that doesn't resemble a huge Zune. And given Microsoft's investment in cloud, I don't think there's a desktop Office roadmap any more - it's all going to be browser-based / thin client apps. They'll clean up IE so business users don't have to install Firefox or Chrome, but that's it. ;-) > Providing an environment that allowed video editors to more easily create > the next classic animation, coders to more easily grapple a problem, or > giving sysadmins a better multi tasking de WOULD draw them in. In the end, > we want people who'll contribute and targeting those folks and their needs > is the best way to do that. Indeed. I've seen a few posts go by in this thread praising Mozilla - let me add to the chorus. Obviously there are lawyer-accountant things that would have to be done, but I think a Fedora (Red Hat) partnership with Mozilla is a damn good idea. I gave up on Chrome and Chromium a long time ago. Firefox Developer Edition and HTML5/CSS3/JavaScript is where it's at unless you're targeting iOS. -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
