Two problems with live media: 1. Installer team dislikes it because the environment gets increasingly non-deterministic the longer the user uses the system before installing the OS, and this can cause unpredictable installer failures that are also quite difficult to test for. (This is an old concern.) 2. The installer rescue mode isn't available with live media. Both Ubuntu and openSUSE offer separate boot menu options for installing the OS, vs booting the live environment. It seems both problems above could be obviated if Fedora lives also distinguished between installing vs booting live. I know this has come up before, but not since products arrived. It's understandable this is probably a Fedora 23 food for thought. It is somewhat mitigated by the Fedora 22 plan to have separate product netinstalls, with which the rescue mode will be available. -- Chris Murphy -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop