Re: Adding xorg-x11-drv-libinput to the Desktop's set of default packages

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Hi,

On 12-01-15 15:45, drago01 wrote:
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,


On 12-01-15 13:46, Josh Boyer wrote:

On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 5:55 AM, drago01 <drago01@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Hi,


On 12-01-15 11:48, drago01 wrote:


On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 11:47 AM, drago01 <drago01@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:


Hi All,

As explained here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LibinputForXorg

We want to move the input stack for xorg over to libinput, the plan
is to do this move gradually, starting with moving GNOME / the
desktop product over.

Upstream GNOME is already working on adding support for
xf86-input-libinput's configuration API, once that lands
xorg-x11-drv-libinput should be added to the Desktop's set of default
packages, hence this mail.


One question though ... if both libinput and synapics are installed
which one will X pick? (asking because of upgrades).



xorg-x11-drv-libinput will be preferred over the old evdev / synaptics
drivers if both are installed.


OK.


So from the thread on devel@, it seems KDE is going to have issues
with libinput in the F22 timeframe.  While GNOME is the base DE for
Workstation, KDE was supposed to be a focus area for Workstation with
this release.  We have the qt theme under review already, etc.

How does this all play out?  Aren't we going to face the same problems
here that the KDE spin does?


Running KDE apps on top of the GNOME desktop will not be affected,
actually even with xorg-x11-drv-libinput installed KDE itself will
still work fine, the only thing which will not work is KDE's configuration
applet for configuring touchpad settings like tap-to-click.

If KDE users have xorg-x11-drv-libinput installed (somehow) and they
want something else then the default touchpad behaviour they can still
get it but the will need to use xinput from the commandline to change
the settings; or they can simply do "rpm -e xorg-x11-drv-libinput",
restart X and have everything as it was in F-21, even if they started
with the desktop product.

We are planning a gradual transition here, where both the old and new
xorg drivers will be supported, independent of the DE really, but we
would like to slowly move towards the new driver, so for F-22 the plan
is to have GNOME's input configuration bits know how to talk to either
driver, and have the new driver installed by default on the desktop
product.

Can't we just make whatever the package that contains the KDE control
panel to carry a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ snippet that enables the
synaptics driver?
That way you get libinput by default and synaptics if you install KDE
... as GNOME handles both it won't break GNOME.

In F23 once KDE is ported we can stop shipping that file.

Hmm, interesting suggestion, I've been unable to find clear documentation
on the ordering of parsing xorg.conf.d snippets in general, and the
ordering of parsing stuff under /usr/share/X11 vs under /etc .

Peter, can you shed some light on the parsing ordering (we should really
add something about this to "man xorg.conf".

Peter, what do you think about Draco's suggestion ?

Regards,

Hans
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