On 12/05/2014 12:09 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 12:34:58PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Ryan Lerch <rlerch@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
With the creation of the 3 Fedora flavours, the process of tracking bugs and
RFE's for Fedora workstation is a lot more muddled than it already is.
Should this be something that we should focus on as a meta-task for the F22
release?
Bugzilla currently tracks issues on a per-package (component in the Bugzilla
terminology ) basis, so some packages are used in all 3 flavours, but others
are more specific to Workstation (e.g. gnome-shell). And some of these have
a lot of bugs in the NEW status (gnome-shell has over 830).
I'm not sure what the solution is here, but from a user point of view, the
experience for filing a bug, RFE or providing feedback for the workstation
is very confusing. IMHO, we shouldn't expect users to know what component
their bug is against, or if they should file a bug upstream or not.
So i'm reaching out for thoughts / ideas on how to make this better.
We have the Workstation trac instance. For RFE's specific to
workstation, people could file those there. I know trac is horrible,
but we have nothing better at the moment. Package specific problems
still likely belong in the per-package component in bugzilla though.
I have to agree with per-package BZ filing for now, even though BZ is
also horrible in its own way. Also it could get confusing for users
to have different guidance scattered around Fedora docs and other
online resources.
Getting a list of components that are almost exclusively Fedora
Workstation's responsibility would also be useful too (or the ones that
we care the most about -- like packages and components that are included
in the default install) might be a good way to go as well.
And tracking the stats on these, and starting to try to triage these. I
am happy to help out with the triage efforts.
cheers,
ryanlerch
I'm glad you reminded about the Trac. On a separate but related note,
we could track WG agenda and tasks there, as I believe other WGs do.
That may cost a couple extra minutes for a task, but it can help with
accountability.
These are the current tickets, probably out of date:
https://fedorahosted.org/workstation/report/1
#7 - sync Spec package list with comps/kickstart - Seems done, Kalev?
#3 - KDE integration - This task needs to be more clearly spelled out,
and it sounds like this is more about a higher-level Software
installer discussion which we need to follow up on, right?
#4 - KDE variant of Adwaita theme - AIUI not done yet but in progress,
per Matthias and Christian's comments in the last meeting. We
should probably reset the milestone for F22 Alpha.
#8 - On-demand socket activation for services - looks like a one-off
request from twaugh, but AFAICT we missed this for F21 -- is that
right?
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