On Wed, 22.10.14 07:36, Matthew Miller (mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 08:24:23PM -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Do we still ship the older network scripts in Fedora workstation? What are > > the plans to integrate systemd-networkd if any? What is the future of NM? > > We'd really like to stop shipping the older network scripts, but there > aren't any concrete related plans. See > <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1081999>. > > > In the cloud SIG, we talked about making a generator for systemd which > would take ifcfg-* style configuration scripts and make networkd > configuration on the fly, but explicitly only covering a subset of > options. But given all of the things to do, this hasn't risen in > priority. <https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/14> One major issue is also that networkd so far lacks a bus interface, you cannot tell it to change configuration at runtime. Something like "ifup" is not available. I mean, networkd is fully dynamic and everything, but it only operates based on pre-defined configuration, you cannot change what it is doing from the outside without changing the configuration. For many embedded and container setups the current feature set of networkd is good enough, but without an equivalent for ifup/ifdown it is simply not a suitable replacement for the networkign scripts yet. Adding a bus API is high on our list though. The reason this is not yet available is mostly that we care about the initrd and early-boot usecase. Traditional dbus is not available there. Which means we'd have to listen on an additional socket for dbus requests so that the ifup/ifdown equivalent could work in that context too. We did this for PID 1 itself, because we had to, but we wanted to avoid this for networkd so far, given the perspective that with kdbus the whole problem goes away entirely as IPC is then avilable from the first instant of boot-up to the last of shutdown, and we can open up things nicely then. Or in other words: before kdbus is a reality networkd won't be full networking scripts replacement. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering, Red Hat -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
