On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 14:25 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > Will/should there be separate or slightly more qualified requirements for i686? Either hardware 3D support, or an age bracket? > > I ask because I dug out a 10 year old Dell laptop from storage and it meets the current requirements: 2GB RAM, 60GB drive, 1.7GHz CPU. > > But with AMD RV250/M9 GL FireGL 9000/Radeon 9000, the journal reports: > gnome-session-is-accelerated: No hardware 3D support. This is because of a blacklist in /usr/share/gnome-session/hardware-compatibility - I don't remember at this point why pre-R300 Radeon is blacklisted... as far as I know things *should* work. Theories: * old Radeons typically have very small amounts of on-board video memory - 64MB is practically speaking pretty much the minimum that is going to work well. * Even several years ago when we created that file, we didn't feel like we had enough testing on R[12]xx to have any confidence in the drivers. * Some bug encountered in the past that may or may not have been fixed. * AGP, ugh, don't want to deal. You can try commenting out the relevant line in that file and see what happens. > While gdm comes up, gnome-shell crashes (this is TC6). This is definitely not expected; since hardware support is disabled, you will have llmvpipe rendering, just like is used, e.g., when running Fedora in a VM. (i686 Fedora in a VM seems to work just fine.) > With my QA hat on, I'd say if it worked, I'd use it against some of the > test cases; the fact it doesn't and i686 is (probably?) going away soon > anyway makes me think "if it works, bonus; if it doesn't, give up while > you still can" sort of attitude. Our current thinking is that this system is marginal, but within the system requirements and any crashes are bugs we should fix. - Owen -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
