Hi all. I did a netinstall of F21 (it worked) and the resulting installed system was around 4GB. So, 4GB for base system, plus 2GB for updates (there are a lot of them during the lifetime of the product), and 4GB for extra headroom (user apps, content) - that comes out as 10GB minimal. So I'd say 10GB minimal, 25GB recommended, standard "more is better" clause, and maybe add something about the fact we come with "batteries included" - ie. we have a full office suite and such, to justify the space needs. For the record, the biggest packages we install by default are: 252MB libreoffice-core 108MB firefox 97MB java-1.8.0-openjdk-headless 76MB webkitgtk4 68MB PyXB There's probably some room for minor optimization, for those who care about the live image size (I care, but trimming it is hard now that we ship with so many stuff "we can't do without). I don't think we can do much to reduce the final installed size - I think 10GB minimal is reasonable. -- -Elad Alfassa. -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop