On Sep 3, 2014, at 7:21 AM, Josh Boyer <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Alberto Ruiz <aruiz@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Sure, I understand and concede that VBox does a shitty job wrt their >> drivers, but on the other hand it is one of the most popular desktop >> virtualization solutions, it is pretty much the only way to test a Linux >> desktop OS on top of Windows and Mac that doesn't require a license. > > There are other repos that provide it. People are already enabling > those repos for everything else that is highly useful but not provided > by Fedora. Ancient support from what I've seen so far. I suppose if I were more sane I'd go back to the pleistocene of color and btrfs testing, ~2 years ago. > >> To be fair I mostly care about the graphics drivers, I/O is not a big >> deal. The performance/experience of a GL enabled+autoresize guest vs. an >> llvmpipe one is more than noticeable (specially if you're running on >> battery). >> >> The problem here is that they don't keep up with Fedora Workstation >> kernels so the user always ends up having to install all the build >> dependencies and run their clumsy .run script and wait for everything to >> be built, installed and then restart the vm. Which is a pretty terrible >> experience. > > It's also a pretty terrible experience when they do get it to build > and load and it crashes their kernel. For me not even once in 4 years has linux crashed as a result of vbox guest drivers. Once in 4 years has xnu crashed due to vbox kernel extensions. Maybe it's because xnu isn't exactly the most bleeding edge of kernels or kernel development. > I consider myself to be fairly open to many things. Carrying > virtualbox modules out-of-tree when the authors refuse to even submit > them upstream for review and have no intention of ever doing so is not > one of those things. This is one of the few items where I simply say > no. I agree with this. In for a penny, in for a pound. I'm only in favor of a narrow carving for improving the Fedora-VirtualBox experience, i.e. VirtualBox on Windows/OS X with Fedora as the guest, that's my interest. When I run Fedora bare metal I haven't considered using it. Chris Murphy -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
