On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Bastien Nocera <bnocera@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hey, > > ----- Original Message ----- >> Hi all, >> >> In Fedora 20, Shotwell was the default image viewer and no other image >> viewer was installed. In F21 Shotwell is still the default, but now >> Image Viewer (eog) is installed as well. This doesn't make any sense >> since Image Viewer serves no purpose unless it's the default image >> handler, whereas Shotwell is more useful for previewing and organizing a >> collection of photos. >> >> We've also recently noticed that gthumb looks like a nice alternative to >> Shotwell. I propose we do one of the following: >> >> * Replace Shotwell with gthumb, and remove Image Viewer. >> * Replace Shotwell with gthumb, but keep Image Viewer as the default >> image viewer. >> * Remove Shotwell, and keep Image Viewer as the only image viewer. >> >> Opinions welcome. >> >> You might notice that I'm gunning for Shotwell here. It looks a lot >> older than gthumb, and seems to have mostly the same functionality. >> (Make sure to check out gthumb in F21, not F20. You wouldn't know they >> were the same app due to the huge changes.) Image Viewer, in contrast, >> is a simple app for just previewing images, which is a different >> purpose, but I think gthumb can also serve this purpose just as well >> while looking nicer. >> >> There are other options, of course, which I am less fond of: >> >> * Remove Image Viewer. (Shotwell remains.) >> * Make Image Viewer the default image viewer. (Shotwell remains.) >> >> Either of these would be more sensible than keeping Image Viewer if it >> is not the default image viewer. >> >> GNOME Photos is notably not one of the apps we're considering. We've >> been told it's not ready yet. > > A couple of things: > - We used shotwell's viewer, not shotwell by default. It's a different mode of > the same binary, but it's not shotwell itself. > - eog was already installed by default when we added Shotwell to F16, and shotwell > was made the default for the image types it handled > > So my questions would be: > - Is gnome-photos going to have a "display/preview" mode, that doesn't import in the > library? Something that's fast enough to launch for multiple images? Can we yield on > that? > - Is gnome-documents going to get similar support for opening PDFs/etc. without opening them > (but giving the opportunity to add them to the "library")? Does it support opening multiple documents at once? > - Should we remove evince from the default installation then? Not unless documents is usable for multi page documents (See https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710043 and https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=689041) But that aside I don't think using a "management app" for simple viewing is a good idea unless it has a preview mode that does not have all the "bloat" (i.e what you wrote above). -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop