Re: how are upgrades supposed to work in fedora.next?

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On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Josh Boyer <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:37 PM, drago01 <drago01@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Dennis Gilmore <dennis@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> So I asked in the FESCo meeting how you expect upgrades to work without
>>> an install tree? the building on the upgrade initramfs and the tree for
>>> upgrades is tied into the creation of an install tree. additionally all
>>> the future options that have been looked at for livecd creation plan to
>>> use anaconda, as such an install tree really is a requirement.
>>>
>>> I am trying to understand how you expect things to work if you do not
>>> produce an install tree.
>>
>> Can't we just create a minimum install tree (and don't ship an iso)
>> that has everything that is required for fedup and point it to the
>> "everything + updates" repo?
>
> Reviving this thread because 1) It seems like an important question,
> and 2) I'm not sure everyone on the list understood the implications
> Dennis was trying to convey.  I know I didn't.
>
> So with the idea that Workstation is doing a live image delivery for
> _installs_, how do we foresee upgrades from e.g. F20 to Workstation
> working?
>
> Dennis, can you elaborate on what you mean by "install tree", why you
> think there wouldn't be an install tree if we focus on a live image,
> the requirements fedup would need to allow upgrades, etc?
>
> The suggestion you got in the only other reply seems to be viable to
> me, but I don't think anyone here understands from a rel-eng
> perspective what is required to make this feasible.

Dennis?
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