On Mon, 2014-03-03 at 10:41 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mar 3, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Michael Cronenworth <mike@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Lennart Poettering wrote: > >> Quite frankly, I am pretty sure LVM has no place on non-servers, and should > >> not be offered by the desktop installer. > > > > The server use-cases could be questioned as well. The ones presented so far have been specialized cases. > > Sure. Plain ext4 would in fact boot a server just as well as it does cloud and in some sense is more reliable as ext4 is baked into the kernel, unlike XFS or LVM. > > > If you care about zero-down time or redundancy then you need RAID (hardware or MDADM). > > This could be made easier. Manual Partitioning doesn't really help build this, you really have to know what you're doing. > > On UEFI, it's semi-broken in that degraded booting isn't possible to > configure within the installer's Manual Partitioning panel: it doesn't > auto-create (or make it feasible to manually create) the mandatory EFI > System partitions on every drive, we don't install the boot loader to > each ESP, and we put the grub.cfg in the ESP which is the wrong place. > Presumably hot-swap drives are a given, and degraded boots aren't a > top priority but… Focus, please - we don't need to bring every known partitioning topic into this conversation, we really don't. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop